Forums - Worst Character Ever Show all 100 posts from this thread on one page Forums (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/index.php) - Fighting Game Discussion (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=8) -- Worst Character Ever (http://www.shoryuken.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18941) Posted by jonace1 on 05:16:2001 01:57 AM: Worst Character Ever Dan Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:16:2001 01:59 AM: Iceman. Honestly? Bao. Posted by JL tha Infamos on 05:16:2001 02:01 AM: Dan rules! But I do agree that Bao sucks major ass. Posted by IronPanda on 05:16:2001 02:08 AM: Birdie sucks ass and spits out the seeds. Posted by Strider Hiryu on 05:16:2001 02:55 AM: Either one of the doods from Karate champ. Posted by Jin Rules! on 05:16:2001 02:56 AM: Whos Bao? Posted by Shin-Mech-Brian on 05:16:2001 04:19 AM: Roll. What a piece of crap she is... Posted by el_diablo on 05:16:2001 04:21 AM: Ryu Posted by JL tha Infamos on 05:16:2001 04:28 AM: Bao is the little she-male that joined the Psycho Soldeir team in KOF 99. Posted by GeoG2 on 05:16:2001 05:09 AM: quote: Originally posted by Neo Rasa Honestly? Bao. I won a tourney with him once. He's not all that bad. In fact, he's overpowered. Posted by Neo Rasa on 05:16:2001 05:14 AM: Bao is extremely powerful in the right hands. I was talking from a design standpoing. Worst gameplay? Cyborg from Rise of the Robots. Posted by Dilated Hadashi on 05:16:2001 05:31 AM: quote: Originally posted by Neo Rasa Worst gameplay? Cyborg from Rise of the Robots. oh god... i had almost forgotten that game... aww damn I'm gonna cry... -- I'm kinda like an epiphany, I'll get to you eventually -- Posted by JaHa on 05:16:2001 05:49 AM: i hate kobun hes so useless and annoying Posted by esak1er on 05:16:2001 06:16 AM: The worst are definetly Servebot Roll Dan Anakaris ESAK1ER HAS SPOKEN Posted by Godoffight on 05:16:2001 07:03 AM: quote: Originally posted by Neo Rasa Bao is extremely powerful in the right hands. I was talking from a design standpoing. Worst gameplay? Cyborg from Rise of the Robots. I rekon the worst gameplay is that Dinosaur game like Mortal Kombat.. but the worst character I've seen is mostly all the Camcom design characters from 3S except Yang and his bro. Posted by Bezerka on 05:16:2001 07:25 AM: R mika Posted by P-Chalk on 05:16:2001 08:06 AM: Thunderhawk nuff said Posted by Mr Creed on 05:16:2001 10:45 AM: Makoto I'd say. Did we really need another Sakura? Posted by S-Hyo_Imawano on 05:16:2001 11:06 AM: ... The red dinosaur in Primal Rage. A bit of a prehistoric Ryu clone. Posted by Johnny on 05:16:2001 01:22 PM: Servebot Posted by Mr Creed on 05:16:2001 02:36 PM: Has anyone mentioned that SC bondage freak, Voldo? I know a lot of people dislike him, at least he has character though even if its the kind of character that will scare small children. Posted by PK on 05:16:2001 02:39 PM: any moral kobat character... hehehe Posted by Mr Creed on 05:16:2001 02:43 PM: The characters in MK2 rocked. Baraka, Scorpion, Reptile and Kung Lao to name a few. Come to think of it MK2 was a good game (well pretty good anyway). Kung Lao could decapitate opponents with his hat! Posted by STEROLIZER on 05:17:2001 10:31 PM: MK was a good Game Mk was a really good game...the Characters were really cool too. Now suck hey...well T-Hawk stunck...and so does that Raiden dude from SNK...he is not the real Raiden. Posted by ShinIce on 05:17:2001 10:35 PM: Juli and Juni in Alpha 3 were pretty lame attempts as characters go Posted by TalbainEric on 05:17:2001 10:37 PM: Chun Li(now she is),Dan,Chang,Choi,Makoto,Sakura. They all suck! Posted by jonace1 on 05:17:2001 11:25 PM: quote: Originally posted by SeanPyro design: capcom/ Gill - SF 3 snk/ Kain - MoTW you would think that people who can make Geese and Vega/Bison could make some thing better than a tall fruty booty who wears a speedo and a mug with long hair and a cheap outfit -Sean woa now, dont be dissin vega, hes the man Posted by Edge-5125 on 05:17:2001 11:42 PM: Dan (just plain sucks) Makmoto (boring) Twelve (he was lame) Jhun (I HATE HIM, FIGHTS LIKE A FUCKING QUEER!!) Bao (Too young) Chin (The Old man must go into retirement) Servbot (ANNOYING) Chang (gross!) Choi (idiotic) Posted by s†onne on 05:18:2001 12:03 AM: quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by SeanPyro design: capcom/ Gill - SF 3 snk/ Kain - MoTW you would think that people who can make Geese and Vega/Bison could make some thing better than a tall fruty booty who wears a speedo and a mug with long hair and a cheap outfit -Sean -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ?? Gill is so cool. Posted by Big Andrewski on 05:18:2001 02:28 AM: Eddy from Tekken 3 (too many ppl like to be cheap w/ him) Servebot (DUH!) Karari or whatever his name is from SFEX3 (He's Akuma toned down too much!) Omega Red (he fucking annoying!) Sakura (looking up her skirt ain't glourious! and she's a Ryu wanna-be!) And some other dudes from SFEX3 that I can't recall right now... And if ur gonna diss Dan, diss MVC2/MVSF Dan! Dan ain't that bad in his other games! Posted by Fyrefox on 05:18:2001 02:33 AM: Id have to say Cable BECAUSE ONE CABLE IS CHEAP! hes just too cheap. But if there waz no cable i would have to say iceman than Ironaman so on and so on. I have to say the worst ever....i lose wiht him all the damn time. ARKNANIS! STUPID MUMMY!!!! The only good thing hes good for is whipping my ass after im finshing going to the washroom and beatin his ass in the game. Posted by rusbar on 05:18:2001 02:56 AM: quote: Originally posted by esak1er The worst are definetly Servebot Roll Dan Anakaris ESAK1ER HAS SPOKEN man, anakaris kicks major butty! Posted by ShinEFF on 05:18:2001 03:46 AM: Chun Li???? Sakura?! *shakes head in disgust. There's no bad charactors, just bad players. Hah. Posted by Fighter Freak on 05:18:2001 03:51 AM: If you think of a really bad character, play Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter. Norimano is probably the worst. The US didn't bother to put him in their game. Posted by CharDLiciouse on 05:18:2001 05:30 AM: Zangief licks nutz Posted by SF Rules on 05:18:2001 05:56 AM: From Street Fighter: Remy Urien Gill Sean Yun/Yang Oro Twelve Necro Q We wait years taking SF2 after SF2 then SF3 comes out and half the roster are freak designs only Howard Stern could love. Posted by el_diablo on 05:18:2001 06:47 AM: i agree with you, SF rules, except for one..... SEAN RULEZ!!!!!! except that, terry, andy, sakura, T-Hawk, freeman and benimaru are some lame characters Posted by Fyrefox on 05:18:2001 07:03 AM: Hmm...now u always have to wonder. I want that Vanica girl that girl wiht blue hair and does alot of punches somone help me out lol. Does anyone know who im talking about? Posted by ShinYojimbo on 05:18:2001 08:43 AM: Worst Character ever... "Ryu" the boring rip-off of KarateChamp. Posted by Baby Bonnie Hood on 05:18:2001 08:47 AM: Q-Bee. Most dull Darkstalker I've ever seen. Even Victor has more story than her :\ Posted by Septmed on 05:18:2001 09:17 AM: Either Solid Snake or Squall Lionheart.(Yes, I know none of these characters have nothing to do with SF.) Posted by Mr Creed on 05:18:2001 01:12 PM: quote: Originally posted by Septmed Either Solid Snake or Squall Lionheart.(Yes, I know none of these characters have nothing to do with SF.) Solid snake rocks! How the hell could you not like him? He's Clint Eastwood with a headband. Tough, understated, calculating all American, I thought everyone loved this guy? I agree with Squall. He was the lamest, most boring, soft cocked, scrawny assed, freaking faggot to ever grace a screen. Man, I hate this guy! Posted by Monkey on 05:18:2001 02:00 PM: Servbot. Posted by crippcripp on 05:18:2001 02:20 PM: servebot isn't thw worst, ever try to trap his ass? most traps don't work on his miniature self, not a bad trait... as for dan, he's got a move that almost kills himself in mvc2... how an you say a character that can essentially commit suicide in mid fight.. this whole thing is kinda laughable though... wanna talk about poorly made characters then how about call out gambit and juggy because of their glitches? not saying they are bad to play just slightly flawed in design Posted by LordLocke on 05:18:2001 04:35 PM: The Chronos from that old-skool PC fighter One Must Fall 2097. Weak, weak, weak, weak, weak... Loved the game, hated that one mech. Posted by ytz16 on 05:18:2001 04:40 PM: remy. What a rip off of Guile. I mean, Nash as well.. they could have at least not used the charge-style technique which is EXACTLY the same as guile's... Posted by CyntalanMaelstrom on 05:18:2001 04:43 PM: quote: Originally posted by el_diablo i agree with you, SF rules, except for one..... SEAN RULEZ!!!!!! except that, terry, andy, sakura, T-Hawk, freeman and benimaru are some lame characters ::cheers:: YAY! Another Terry Hater!!!! The pizza boy must die! Posted by Big Pete Roasa on 05:18:2001 06:45 PM: I'm thinking Gun Jack from TTT Posted by el_diablo on 05:18:2001 06:59 PM: well, i hate terry.... in the 2 last KOF, the man "dies", then come back...... why doesn't he die one for all??? DIE, TERRY, DIE!!!!!!! Posted by jonace1 on 05:18:2001 07:10 PM: i just tried to play with him, and t hawk is the worst fucking character ever. HE really sucks ass Posted by jedirobb on 05:18:2001 07:21 PM: hey jonace - you know earlier - when they said vega/bison they were meaning bisons name in japan right? vega is a beautiful character - even if a wolverine spin off ! ha thawk is ok - i think his spd is a whole lot cooler looking than giefs - i mean grabbing you by the friggen neck is sweet... the worst sf characters were the ones from sf the movie both games - those washed out pissy looking mk knockoffs... those were the woooorst.. robb = ) Posted by O.Ryoga on 05:18:2001 07:37 PM: quote: Originally posted by el_diablo well, i hate terry.... in the 2 last KOF, the man "dies", then come back...... why doesn't he die one for all??? DIE, TERRY, DIE!!!!!!! Storylinewise, he will remain alive for the next 8 years, after that nobody knows. I must agree with Yojimbo. Kill the idiot in a gi that didn't change in more than 10 years (and kill his mate as well). Posted by el_diablo on 05:18:2001 07:42 PM: yeah, i know..... but lets hope that rock kills him in MOTW2..... that bastard should die..... Posted by Big Andrewski on 05:18:2001 09:41 PM: quote: Originally posted by Big Pete Roasa I'm thinking Gun Jack from TTT Umm...shut up...all the Jacks are cool! Posted by Don Knotts on 05:18:2001 11:12 PM: I don't like any character that if they are bland, blatently attempting to be cool, and show no sign of originality. Kyo, Iori, and the rest of the pretty boys. There are enough people like that in real life without having to see them in games. It's weird to me that people don't like Servebot, Bao and Chang&Choi. These are a 4 of the most interesting, never been seen in a fighting game style designs ever. They're all a little gimmicky, but at least they show some insperation on the designers part. Enough of cookie cutter "bad ass" fighters! It's geting to be almost as bad as superhero comics. Posted by Twister on 05:18:2001 11:35 PM: Worst design or gameplay? Well MK does suck ass and stryker was the most pathetic piece of crap ever... what were they thinking? 342 ninjas, 213 female ninjas, and a freak with spikes... good thinking by midway I really dont want to get into primal rage Wargods.... But good company's with bad charecters: SNK: Brian Battler.. really pathetic Bao... sure he CAN be good, but for the most part he is a horrible design Benimeru... there not allowed to get married so why are they allowed in fighting games? Raiden... no coment Axel Hawk... a stupid fat boxer Capcom: Sakura... i think my dog would have made a better character E Honda... to fat and should die Dhalsim... WAY to slow and boring... maybe if he wasnt so slow and boring... Blanka... it was better when he was serious instead of a joke thats all i can think of for now... Posted by Don Knotts on 05:19:2001 12:05 AM: Are you talking about how they play? I think we're talking more about design. Posted by homerSCORPION on 05:19:2001 01:35 AM: Worst character ever?, Cody from SFZ3, disappointing is quite an understatement. quote: "Believe in the Sign of Zeta" Posted by ShinYojimbo on 05:19:2001 03:03 AM: Benimaru... there not allowed to get married so why are they allowed in fighting games? *Benimaru IS NOT GAY!Go counter mode and cancel a shiku karategoma into a geni hurricane super and we shall see whos "gay" when you scream like a girl. Posted by o0ninja0o on 05:19:2001 03:34 AM: i think the best design character is dat guy from rival schools2 dat swimming dude... any one who can fight in speedos is cool Posted by o0ninja0o on 05:19:2001 03:37 AM: oh ya the worst ugliest piece of shit design i ever seen is 3rd form of abiss fuckin looks like nintendo o hehe i click all does just for waitin a damn minute Posted by Don Knotts on 05:19:2001 03:43 AM: All the rival school's characters are tight. Posted by jonace1 on 05:19:2001 03:51 AM: yea, and dan still sucks ass. Posted by Big Andrewski on 05:19:2001 04:14 AM: quote: Originally posted by Twister But good company's with bad charecters: SNK: Brian Battler.. really pathetic Bao... sure he CAN be good, but for the most part he is a horrible design Benimeru... there not allowed to get married so why are they allowed in fighting games? Raiden... no coment Axel Hawk... a stupid fat boxer Capcom: Sakura... i think my dog would have made a better character E Honda... to fat and should die Dhalsim... WAY to slow and boring... maybe if he wasnt so slow and boring... Blanka... it was better when he was serious instead of a joke thats all i can think of for now... Don't make fun of fat people! And WTF is up w/ ur character selection?! Although I do agree about Sakura and Raiden, some of ur other character selections suck ass! E. Honda is good, and u just gotta know how to play Dhalsim and Blanka well. Benimaru is actually pretty good in CVS (but's that what I think), and I really don't know who Bao, A. Hawk, and Brian are. Were u on crack when making this selection?! Posted by CyntalanMaelstrom on 05:19:2001 05:59 AM: Momo. Forgot about Momo. Can't forget Momo. I'll line up the tennis psycho mime up with the pizza boy any day. 2 for 1 shot to the head... Posted by Baby Bonnie Hood on 05:19:2001 12:06 PM: quote: Originally posted by CyntalanMaelstrom Momo. Forgot about Momo. Can't forget Momo. I'll line up the tennis psycho mime up with the pizza boy any day. 2 for 1 shot to the head... Not unless she jabs you to death first Hey, I happen to like Momo. Actually, I like any girl who can kick ass. Anyways, the title of Most Lameass Character still goes to Q-Bee for me. Posted by CyntalanMaelstrom on 05:19:2001 05:13 PM: don't give a shit if she can kick ass. All I ever needed to see was her intro and her win pose to know she's a total psycho and annoying as hell.... Posted by jonace1 on 05:20:2001 04:25 AM: You know who also sucks? that dead girl from vampire savior. she has like machete claws and a saw for a attacks, and she runs in mid air. I forgot her name, but she sucks. BBhood and felicia are cool though. Posted by Yang Lee on 05:20:2001 04:54 AM: quote: Originally posted by Big Andrewski Don't make fun of fat people! And WTF is up w/ ur character selection?! Although I do agree about Sakura and Raiden, some of ur other character selections suck ass! E. Honda is good, and u just gotta know how to play Dhalsim and Blanka well. Benimaru is actually pretty good in CVS (but's that what I think), and I really don't know who Bao, A. Hawk, and Brian are. Were u on crack when making this selection?! I don't know who A.Hawk is either, but Bao is a little kid everyone mistakes for a girl, and Brian is an American stereotype with a horrible design. Posted by el_diablo on 05:20:2001 05:06 AM: hsien ko(a.k.a. lei lei) is phat!!!!!! felicia sucks..... Posted by Mirai_Trunks on 05:20:2001 05:16 AM: Re: Worst Character Ever quote: Originally posted by jonace1 Dan Dan ownly when placed up against SF characters ... but outta all of them , I'd have to say Juni or Juli , they're basically harmless without the others' company ... Posted by CharDLiciouse on 05:20:2001 09:10 AM: worst character ever huh...... that fat skank in alpha 3 I think she's a wrestler Posted by Mr Creed on 05:20:2001 12:06 PM: Inferno, the final boss in Soul Calibur was pretty boring and unimaginative IMO. Some of the other characters though such as Seigfreid, Ivy, Mitsurugi and Astaroth are some of the best character designs ever. Posted by Big Andrewski on 05:20:2001 02:03 PM: quote: Originally posted by Yang Lee I don't know who A.Hawk is either, but Bao is a little kid everyone mistakes for a girl, and Brian is an American stereotype with a horrible design. Now I see why I hate them. *Hits himself w/ a very large metal rod* Good God, I'm stupid. Posted by Big Andrewski on 05:20:2001 02:09 PM: quote: Originally posted by CharDLiciouse worst character ever huh...... that fat skank in alpha 3 I think she's a wrestler That's R.Mika, and she's one bad hoe! Posted by Yang Lee on 05:20:2001 06:38 PM: quote: Originally posted by el_diablo hsien ko(a.k.a. lei lei) is phat!!!!!! felicia sucks..... I agree with the 1st part... now as for the 2nd... Posted by Kuroi Kaze on 05:21:2001 04:33 AM: obvious tekken bad designs: all the jacks snk: the sports guys, benimaru, robert garcia, geese howard capcom: roll, amingo, gill, urien, q, most of sf3...cody soul calibur: yoshimitsu, rock, dark edgemaster, inferno, MAXI that should do for now to get 1,000,000 hater replies you can spit the flame but you walk the lame Posted by Zazzarius on 05:21:2001 04:41 AM: i never liked the tekken chars seemed either too normal or too weird Posted by NeoJB on 05:21:2001 04:46 AM: Dan has to be the worst, any character that has a raging demon that hurts himself in the process is horrible. But he's gonna come out in CVS 2 Posted by el_diablo on 05:21:2001 04:50 AM: WTF???? dan is soooooo phat..... darun is a lame character.... Posted by Krazy *K* on 05:21:2001 05:07 AM: dan Posted by Krazy *K* on 05:21:2001 05:09 AM: Birdie Posted by Krazy *K* on 05:21:2001 05:11 AM: yeah Tekken Characters too! Posted by batsu13 on 05:21:2001 05:12 AM: The worst character ever is Cable. I mean what the deal with him. AHVB, give me a break! Posted by CyntalanMaelstrom on 05:21:2001 06:09 AM: eh, true, Yoshimitsu isn't that great of a design by Namco.... but he's absolutely great when done by Birdman and The Wanderer! Just love how he's turned into a psychotic samurai mech programmed with 50's knowledge in UVR. ^_^ Posted by Big Andrewski on 05:21:2001 09:17 PM: Re: obvious quote: Originally posted by Kuroi Kaze tekken bad designs: all the jacks snk: the sports guys, benimaru, robert garcia, geese howard capcom: roll, amingo, gill, urien, q, most of sf3...cody soul calibur: yoshimitsu, rock, dark edgemaster, inferno, MAXI that should do for now to get 1,000,000 hater replies you can spit the flame but you walk the lame Umm...shut up! Posted by Big Andrewski on 05:21:2001 09:19 PM: I will also admit the Colossus in MVC2 is god-awful. Posted by Cpt.Cat on 05:22:2001 12:52 AM: CABLE, SENT, B. HEART Posted by Yang Lee on 05:22:2001 03:09 AM: Please tell me one reason why Geese is bad... insult him again and "You can't escape from death"! Posted by Hannibal Smith on 05:22:2001 04:08 AM: Tekken: Eddy and Devil/Angel Street Fighter: Too many clones of existing ones KOF: Choi Bounge, That one dude w/ basketball, Mr. Big Marvel: NONE! XMEN: NONE! Cable is bad? You must be a worthless human. Give your organs to a being worth of existance. Posted by ex123plusalpha on 05:22:2001 04:36 AM: WORST character? Area from EX2.(and I thought Pullum was bad) Posted by Judgment Day on 05:22:2001 04:55 AM: quote: Originally posted by crippcripp as for dan, he's got a move that almost kills himself in mvc2... how an you say a character that can essentially commit suicide in mid fight.. this whole thing is kinda laughable though... Yoshimitsu has moves that can kill himself, but that doesn't necessarily claim him as worthless; and in some cases, he can still get the victory after doing such a move. And whoever said GunJack (Jacks in general) is worthless hasn't heard of Jackler, I suppose. He's a Japanese tournament player who won a couple of major tournies using GunJack during the T3 days. And that's the tip of the iceburg...While not exactly the top of the list, I among others can give you tons of tournament style and competitive Jack Players and how he is extremely underestimated. Worst character...? Well, there's been so many fighting games out, it's hard to decipher that #1 spot. I would say that Servebot is up there though. While not totally useless, any character nowadays that can lose in less than 10 seconds, actual time...simply doesn't let the ends justify the means. Suffice it to say, I don't know if there really is a "worst" of the worst, but there are bad characters. You can be very good with what you do, but even the best can only do so much. Video game characters, sports equipment, etc.; it all works together based on the player, but also what you have to work with. Posted by P-Chalk on 05:22:2001 05:32 AM: Nooo I still hate T.Hawk but i also hate Leon /Bayman from DOA , Chang and Choi , Kasumi Todoh ( but im softing up to her) All Tekken serect charcters for their lack of style .every Mortal Kombat character, well really my hate list is much larger T.Hawk sucks Chalk Posted by IronPanda on 05:22:2001 05:45 AM: Brian Fury from Tek3 Posted by Adept on 05:22:2001 08:16 AM: Dr. B from Tekken 3. Posted by Mr Creed on 05:22:2001 12:42 PM: quote: Originally posted by P-Chalk Nooo I still hate T.Hawk but i also hate Leon /Bayman from DOA , Chang and Choi , Kasumi Todoh ( but im softing up to her) All Tekken serect charcters for their lack of style .every Mortal Kombat character, well really my hate list is much larger T.Hawk sucks Chalk OMG how in the hell can you dislike Bayman!? He is easily the coolest character in the whole DOA series. They dont come any tougher than a Russian combat troop. Damn, he could break a guys arm, seperate his shoulder and then drop him on his head or he could tackle the opponent, dislocate the hip joint and then break their freak'in leg and all in glorious 3D. Fuck, that guy was awesome. You're right about Choi though, that dude is a joke. Chang aint bad though. Posted by Benor on 05:22:2001 05:34 PM: Why? quote: Originally posted by el_diablo yeah, i know..... but lets hope that rock kills him in MOTW2..... that bastard should die..... I may have to hurt you now. Terry is a pretty good character. Posted by The Jedi Knight on 05:22:2001 10:11 PM: all the useless guys in all the final fantasy games like cait sith Posted by Kuroi Kaze on 05:22:2001 10:31 PM: ok let's get something straight here, i am a tournament quality tekken player and can kick ass with all of them. i never insulted the jack's abilities to whoop ass (as a matter of fact in tekken 2 pjack had an instant kill combo, and in tag he still holds as a threat) but their design is outdated and lame geese howard is also a complete waste, am i supposed to be scared of a business man in traditional japanese attire? please! and a name like GEESE? I personally like Yoshimitsu's Tekken Tag design and his Tekken 2 one was good but I hate what he is like in Soul Calibur. For any that think Dan is a worthless character you are far mistaken, even in MVC2 I've seen dan combo's that made me sick such as getting OTG'ed after the Otoko Michi...disgusting. Servebot's properties of shaking combos and general annoyance make him far more valuble than roll...she simply has no weapons to work with. So to summarize Worst playable character of all time: Roll MVC2 Worst design of all time: Urien (dude in thong?!? wtf?!?) Posted by Kuroi Kaze on 05:22:2001 10:39 PM: As for Brian Fury do the first two hits of back and 1,2 then do back 1,2,4 and watch your opponent's just DRAIN...i admit he's not top tier but you can't understimate anyone that strong and fast as for design the swat outfit would be cool except for that gay little ribbon on his arm but a zombie is kind of a cool concept As for Dr. B the Geriatric combo (ff 1,4,3,3,3,2) and his uppercut (uf 2 or uf1) hurt bad not to mention his many abilites to dodge damage also watch out for the unblockable flying butt pliers...that's nasty nough, said All times are GMT. The time now is 11:05 PM. 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